Bill Moore Lake

Empire, Colorado (ClearCreek) Technical Rating: 3-4

Last Updated: 10-25-2017

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Status: Partially Open
Difficulty: Easy
Length: 5.6 Miles
Category: Altitude, Forest, Mine, Rock
Highest Elevation: 11,518 '
Duration: about 3 hours
Shape of Trail: Out & Back
Best Direction to Go: N/A
Nearest Town:
Empire
Nearest Town w/ Service:
Idaho Springs
Forest Service Road: # 183.1
Forest Service / Park District:
Arapaho National Forest/Clear Creek

Bill Moore Lake Highlights

Highlights: Bill Moore Lake - Empire, Colorado

About 1 hour from Denver, Colorado and situated within the Arapahoe National Forest the Bill Moore Lake 4X4 Road is one of the trails in the Empire Loop, a network of trails just above Empire, Colorado. Offering amazing alpine scenery and fun hill climbs for both the novice and seasoned, this trail is a must do. While you are at it, visit the Hard Rock Cafe in Empire, the original, dating from 1934, and named for the hard rock miners that were its early customers. It predates and is not affiliated with the chain of restaurants that also call themselves the Hard Rock Cafe.

Technical rating: (3-4) Easy

Rutted and/or rocky road. No shelves but rocks to 9". Water crossings usually less than hub deep. Passable mud. Grades moderate, up to 15 degrees. Side hill moderate up to 15 degrees. 4WD under most conditions. No width problems, vehicle passing spots frequently available if less than two vehicles wide.

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Directions to Trailhead

Take I-70 to Highway 40. Go north to the town of Empire. Turn right on Main (this intersection does not have a street light). Travel approximately 1 mile just after turning on Main to the air down area.

 

Trailhead GPS Coordinates:

39° 46' 20.89"N
105° 41' 1.46"W

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Route Description

The Bill Moore Lake Trail is part of the Empire 4X4 Loop. The road follows County Road 251 for the first few miles before it joins Forest Service Road 183.1. 95% of the trail has passing areas except at the very end when you climb down into Bill Moore Lake. It starts within a more wooded area along Country Road 251 which is filled with whoop-de-dos and washouts. Once you pass the Conqueror Mine it follows a shelf road before one last narrow switch back. It finally joins with Forest Service Road 183.1 where the forest thickens before it climbs to the fringes of timberline giving way to a general alpine and open space. Once in the alpine zone there are plenty of moderately steep climbs with loose rock. It connects with the Mill Creek and Red Elephant Hill Loop. 4 low and high clearance recommended.

1: Air Down Area

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Turn right at the fence to head to the official trailhead. This is also a great location for airing down and disconnecting sway bars. The road will start climbing immediately.

2: Whoop-de-do Number 1

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Continue on the main road as it climbs up this first switch back. Each year the make up of this section of the trail changes. This is a fun section of the trail to test your vehicles ability to flex.

3: Mine

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Follow the switch back uphill, where you will navigate through more whoop-de-dos.

4: Whoop-de-do Number 2

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Stay straight. Years past this was more whoop-de-do and less wash out. Today its more washout so just pick and plod your way through.

5: Conqueror Mine

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Follow the switch back uphill. The Conqueror Mine was an active gold mine back in the mid to late 1800s; production from this mine helped establish the town of Empire.

6: Private Road

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Stay straight.

7: The Chutes

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Optional: You can turn uphill here for a more challenging hill climb. It does get narrow with loose rock. If you choose this optional route, turn left at the top of the hill where it meets the main trail.

Stay straight: Continue straight and follow the switch back uphill. Be sure to watch for oncoming vehicles just after the next switch back, there is little to no passing area until you reach the next waypoint.

8: Split

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Stay right. The split ends at the same place. GPS mapping shows the lower road to be the official route.

9: The Chutes - Top

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Stay straight. If you choose to come down this way, its a good idea to send a scout down and radio up as there is no passing.

10: Bill Moore Lake Trailhead (183.1) and Miller Creek Dead End Trailhead (171.2)

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Follow the trail left uphill.

11: FR 171.2 Red Elephant and Miller Creek Loop Trailhead

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Follow the trail left uphill.

12: FR 171.3C

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Follow the trail left uphill. There are a few different lines to take on this uphill, with the right side being the more easy.

13: FR 183.1A Bypass

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Stay right for an easier route. Stay left for the more challenging and scenic route. The route to the left is steep with loose rock, it is a fun climb, but 4 low is recommended.

14: FR 183.1A Bypass

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Stay straight on the main road. You will have amazing views down below from this point and also get to see the hill climb you will partake in. There are several pull outs, but keep an eye on newer drivers that may not know uphill has the right of way. The trail generally gets more rough and challenging from this point forward.

15: 183.1C

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Stay left on 183.1. This road eventually dead ends with 1 or 2 dispersed camping locations and includes views to the eastern plains and Denver Metro off in the distance.

16: 183.1L

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Stay straight. USFS MVUM mapping shows this road as 183.1D, but signage shows it as 183.1L

17: 183.1L

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Stay straight. Shortly after this area the trail will descend into the Bill Moore Lake area. It will get narrow and slightly more challenging with few passing spots. Take caution to mind oncoming uphill trail traffic which would have the right of way.

18: Bill Moore Lake

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End. There are a few dispersed camping spots which can fit vehicles. Surrounded on 3 sides by nearly sheer cliffs, the lake is framed by Breckenridge Peak to the southwest at 12,889 feet and Witter Peak to the north at 12,884 feet. There are remains of an old cabin within the parking area. Be courteous and leave everything cleaner than when you found it.

Camping and Lodging

Camping & Lodging: Bill Moore Lake - Empire, Colorado

There is dispersed camping along the trail after waypoint 10 along the trail. There is also one or two secluded areas at the end of 183.1C and a couple at Bill Moore Lake.

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Questions & Answers

Question:

Has anyone stayed overnight here? Does it stay crowded or is it all day-trippers? I'm just Trying to find a secluded, yet drivable dispersed camping spot close to Denver for a quick getaway in the Tundra.
By logan on September 16, 2017
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Answer:

Yes, there are a few good spots by the lake, but also right around waypoint 12 or 13 there are a few good spots also.
By Todd Taylor Official Crew on September 17, 2017
We camped here the weekend of Sept 9. Most people we ran into came for the journey, ate and then left. Pretty peaceful.
By Adam on September 17, 2017

Question:

For mid July, would a stock 2016 Wrangler Sport be capable? Thanks.
By Todd on June 09, 2017
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Answer:

Todd, most likely. You will need to pick your lines in a few spots. The roughest part is just before the lake and we won't know what the conditions will be until the last drifts melt.
By Todd Taylor Official Crew on June 09, 2017
I noticed you asked the question for the mid-July month which is around now so here's my answer if this helps and isn't too late: I ran this trail last November with my stock Grand Cherokee and she only has about 8" of ground clearance. She came from the factory with no 4 low, no locking center diff, and open diffs front and rear. (Pretty much AWD). We still made it through the trail just fine. In fact, I'm actually headed back up with her tomorrow on this same trail coincidentally enough to show my friends that I really did take a stock soccer-mom AWD Jeep up this trail lol. Picking your lines is extremely important though on this trail. To answer your question, yes. Your wrangler will be just fine with the right driver skill set :) Have fun and be safe!
By Chris Li on July 19, 2017

Question:

What would you say is the minimum ground clearance needed for this trail?
By Josh Noesser Official Crew on November 17, 2016
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Answer:

9" ground clearance.
By Todd Taylor Official Crew on November 17, 2016
I say 8 inches of ground clearance, so long as you're really good at picking your lines on this trail and it isn't snowy, wet or slippery. This has been verified by me with my stock Jeep GC :)
By Chris Li on July 24, 2017

Trip Reports

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Todd Taylor
Official Crew

Offroaded on 10-25-2017

Status: Partially Open

Conditions: Snow

Snow has fallen in the high country making this trail impassable.

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Adam

Offroaded on 09-09-2017

Status: Open

Conditions: Partially Cloudy

Low Temperature: 33° F

High Temperature: 65° F

Trip Report: Bill Moore Lake - Empire, Colorado Trip Report: Bill Moore Lake - Empire, Colorado Trip Report: Bill Moore Lake - Empire, Colorado Trip Report: Bill Moore Lake - Empire, Colorado Trip Report: Bill Moore Lake - Empire, Colorado Trip Report: Bill Moore Lake - Empire, Colorado

We did Bill Moore Lake Trail over the Sept 9th & 10th weekend. I found people listing it as a 3/4 or 5/6 rating. Depending on what you're driving, they are correct. 4wd is definitely needed with (my opinion) at least 9" of clearance. It's a fun trail with tight switchbacks, big, loose rocks. Some spots need a locker but there is a designated bypass as well. The views are amazing, most of the trail there is plenty of room to pass. The decent to the lake is the only place where passing may be difficult or not possible. Campsites are beautiful as you are surrounded by towering mountain views.

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Trint Ladd
Official Crew

Offroaded on 08-13-2017

Status: Open

Conditions: Sunny

Trip Report: Bill Moore Lake - Empire, Colorado Trip Report: Bill Moore Lake - Empire, Colorado Trip Report: Bill Moore Lake - Empire, Colorado

Took the SxS up Bill Moore and Mill Creek. The parking area was FULL at 8:30 am. Loads of ATV and SxS trailers. Surprisingly we didn't see many folks on the trails. When we first pulled up to the lake, there were only two trucks there. When we left the lake 20 minutes later, different story. (See pic.)

The trail conditions were PERFECT!! Not muddy, but just wet enough to keep the dust down and provide a few splashes in the low spots.

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Chris Li

Offroaded on 07-20-2017

Status: Open

Conditions: Wet

Low Temperature: 75° F

High Temperature: 75° F

Trip Report: Bill Moore Lake - Empire, Colorado Trip Report: Bill Moore Lake - Empire, Colorado Trip Report: Bill Moore Lake - Empire, Colorado Trip Report: Bill Moore Lake - Empire, Colorado Trip Report: Bill Moore Lake - Empire, Colorado

One of my favorite trails and one of the first trails I've ever done when introduced to the 4wheeling life, I went to this trail known as Bill Moore Lake on mid-July of 2017. I attempted this trail not too long ago back in November of 2016 and I can say that this trail is always changing every year. Back in November of 2016, the trail was pretty much flat with less rocks than usual. However, when I returned this July of 2017, the trail was surprisingly more rockier, more rutted out, and the washouts increased! Not to say that I didn't like the challenge, but the Bill Moore I saw in July 2017, though very familiar, was NOT the same Bill Moore that I first encountered back in November 2016. Even with my stock Jeep WK Grand Cherokee named Rocky though (who by the way only has 8" of ground clearance and no 4 low), we had a great time and encountered no issues at all except for some minor hits against the gas tank skid plate, but even they weren't an issue at all. If you're running a low clearance vehicle, I definitely believe that 8" of ground clearance is plenty so long as you pick your lines properly. In fact, the hits my Jeep took all could've been prevented even through the miniature rock gardens; I barely stepped outside to spot for myself. Compared to last year, it seems as if more and more rocks slid down the hills of the trail and onto the actual trail itself, creating a somewhat rock garden-like area around 2/5ths of the trail and onwards. The weather was dry at first when we went up around 11 AM in the morning. By the time we got near the end of the trail, it began to rain and thunder, forcing us to retreat. We had a great time and this trail was definitely worth it! There's some really beautiful scenery to see if you really look for it in some places. You can literally see an entire town from up above the mountains after climbing the 21 degree hill after Waypoint 13 at the High Clearance 4x4 Area. Too bad lightning was taking place :( That being said, since we were so high up in the mountains, we could literally see some lightning so close that it turned purple

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Tracy Barker
Official Crew

Offroaded on 07-08-2017

Status: Open

Conditions: Partially Cloudy

Low Temperature: 65° F

High Temperature: 70° F

Trip Report: Bill Moore Lake - Empire, Colorado Trip Report: Bill Moore Lake - Empire, Colorado Trip Report: Bill Moore Lake - Empire, Colorado Trip Report: Bill Moore Lake - Empire, Colorado

Drove Bill Moore Lake along with Red Elephant Hill and Mill Creek as part of a full-day loop. Our group was the trailsoffroad.com Meetup group from Denver. Wider and more open than either Red Elephant Hill or Mill Creek, Bill Moore Lake was the most pleasurable segment of the trek. There is still snow at the highest elevations, but none obstructing the road. Arriving at the lake was the highlight of the day.

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Chris Shaw
Official Crew

Offroaded on 07-04-2017

Status: Open

Conditions: Dry

Low Temperature: 50° F

High Temperature: 74° F

Trip Report: Bill Moore Lake - Empire, Colorado Trip Report: Bill Moore Lake - Empire, Colorado Trip Report: Bill Moore Lake - Empire, Colorado Trip Report: Bill Moore Lake - Empire, Colorado

I try to run a trail every 4th of July. This year the choice was to run Red Elephant to Bill Moore Lake, then Miller Creek and exit via Bill Moore. We arrived on the trail at about 11:15 PM the sun was shining and the trail was dusty. Red Elephant proved to be a little challenging. I had to use my rear locker multiple times, and had a few very close calls. We made our way up to the lake where there were about 5 other rigs up there. Talked to a few people, ate lunch with our feet in the lake and then headed down to run Miller Creek. This trail was fun, not as challenging as Red Elephant, but overall it seemed to be more narrow than the other trails. Came out the lower end and wrapped back to Bill Moore Lake trail and went down the chutes. Ended the day after airing up at just after 3:30 PM. Made it home in time to catch a concert followed by fireworks.

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Trint Ladd
Official Crew

Offroaded on 05-28-2017

Status: Partially Open

Conditions: Snow

Low Temperature: 40° F

High Temperature: 50° F

Trip Report: Bill Moore Lake - Empire, Colorado Trip Report: Bill Moore Lake - Empire, Colorado

Beautiful day! We took our SxS up to check the snow. At the switch back just past waypoint 11, snow blocks the trail.

Offroaded on 08-12-2016

Status: Open

Conditions: Partially Cloudy

Low Temperature: 32° F

High Temperature: 70° F

Trip Report: Bill Moore Lake - Empire, Colorado Trip Report: Bill Moore Lake - Empire, Colorado

Beautiful weekend of camping off the trail of Bill Moore Lake to view the Perseid Meteor Shower Aug 12th and 13th. The temps Friday night dipped into freezing and left a layer of ice on the dog dish. Better temps on Saturday night.

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Jen & JD Marshall
Official Crew

Offroaded on 07-04-2016

Status: Open

Conditions: Sunny

Low Temperature: 73° F

High Temperature: 87° F

Trip Report: Bill Moore Lake - Empire, Colorado Trip Report: Bill Moore Lake - Empire, Colorado

Went up to Bill Moore for the first time on the 4th, traffic was surprisingly light. We took the stock Rubicon so we took all of the 'easy' bypasses to get to through the trail. The trail is open all the way to the lake with only a few bits of snow. One of them pictured here, both cut/plowed out. The larger of these two snow melts has caused a little mud and rutting to occur near the tree there. Be careful on that line and be aware of momentum. I was mildly concerned that I hadn't turned on my lockers when we came across this little obstacle. The lake is in melt and standing water, soooo, mosquitoes! Bring the Deet and put it on before you reach the end of the trail to spare your bloodstream.

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John Walters

Offroaded on 06-25-2016

Status: Partially Open

Conditions: Dry

Low Temperature: 65° F

High Temperature: 70° F

Trip Report: Bill Moore Lake - Empire, Colorado Trip Report: Bill Moore Lake - Empire, Colorado Trip Report: Bill Moore Lake - Empire, Colorado

Most of the trail to Bill Moore is in its near summer time condition. There were a few small snow drifts that were less than 6" deep left and some parts of the trail were wet from snow melt. Earlier in the day we met with a Forest Service Ranger who had told us that someone had winched through some of the snow drifts that were on the downhill road into the lake, so we investigated after running Miller Creek. As the ranger had stated the snow drifts had been opened up and with the warm temperature there was almost no snow left on the trail. At the bottom near the Buck Fence a large 3+ foot snow drift was still present along with a good amount of water. We shoveled for about 20 minutes and were easily able to get past the drift. Note: that there is quite a bit of water from melting snow so be cautious not to dig any ruts. We monitored it closely. We were able to make it all the way to the lake. With the warmer temperatures the remaining snow drift should melt quickly.

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Todd Taylor
Official Crew

Offroaded on 06-20-2016

Status: Partially Open

Conditions:

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Snow is blocking the trail just past waypoint 15.

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Ryan Boudreau
Official Crew

Offroaded on 04-30-2016

Status: Partially Open

Conditions: Snow

Trip Report: Bill Moore Lake - Empire, Colorado Trip Report: Bill Moore Lake - Empire, Colorado Trip Report: Bill Moore Lake - Empire, Colorado Trip Report: Bill Moore Lake - Empire, Colorado Trip Report: Bill Moore Lake - Empire, Colorado Trip Report: Bill Moore Lake - Empire, Colorado

It was the last day of April and we were on the hunt for some semi open terrain. What we found, was extremely deep, rig swallowing snow. I was in the LJ on 37s, the CJ was on 42s, and the Bronco was on 35s with tire chains. All three rigs are locked front and rear and have winches.

Several fresh inches of snow had fallen the night before and we were making the only tracks from the parking area up the trail. With only several inches under our tires, we made good progress up till the chutes at waypoint 7. The CJ went first and only made it 30 yards before progress stopped and the uphill climb was nothing but an ice sheet under the fresh snow. As he attempted to power through the chute with his big V8, Ryan decided to check out the main route to the right of the chutes. Quickly it became apparent that direction was not a possibility as I was greeted with some extremely off camber drifts towards the downhill side of the trail. While attempting to backup, the LJ slide sideways and dropped a tire of the trail. Out came the winch for a quick self correction to pull it back on the trail, and back to the chutes I went.

The CJ had made it up to the left hand turn in the chutes, but had decided it was more productive to use the winch now instead of trying to throttle out. Once past the turn, he was able to get enough traction again to continue without the winch. As for the Bronco and I, we also had to winch at the same turn spot.

Once we were out of the chute and met back up with the main trail at waypoint 9, the snow became pretty daunting. The CJ plowed the way while the Bronco had to winch a couple times. We reached waypoint 10 at the split for Miller Creek, and found the snow completely impassable to continue. This was the ample opportunity to turn around. Ahead of us, the snow had to have been 7 feet deep with extreme camber into the trees. We turned around and made our way back down the trail to check out some other nearby routes.

The trail received several inches of fresh snow just while we were on it. With the amount of snow we saw, I wouldn't be surprised if the trail is only passable this far till at least the end of May.

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Ryan Boudreau
Official Crew

Offroaded on 11-08-2015

Status: Partially Open

Conditions: Snow

Low Temperature: 45° F

High Temperature: 55° F

Trip Report: Bill Moore Lake - Empire, Colorado Trip Report: Bill Moore Lake - Empire, Colorado Trip Report: Bill Moore Lake - Empire, Colorado Trip Report: Bill Moore Lake - Empire, Colorado Trip Report: Bill Moore Lake - Empire, Colorado Trip Report: Bill Moore Lake - Empire, Colorado

It was the 8th of November and I ran up to Bill Moore Lake with another buddy. I was in my LJ that is locked front and rear, on 37'' tires. My buddy was in a 2dr JK on 37s with only a rear locker.

We started the trail around noon and it was a gorgeous day. Close to 60 degrees all day, and no wind to speak of, even at the top. We didn't encounter any snow till about waypoint 7, and even at that point it was just an inch or so and very spotty. The trail was fairly clear and easy till we got above tree line. Once above tree line the snow got several feet deep in some place. It was a struggle to get to waypoint 15, but we did it without winching, just a lot of back and forth snow busting. We were able to continue through about 8'' or so of snow past waypoint 16 just before the trail drops back down into the trees and has a couple steep downhill sections. The snow was easily 2 feet deep at that point and even if we made it down the hill, coming back up would have proved very very difficult. We opted to turn around at this point. This was 4.8 miles into the trail. Overall, super fun day and I was actually surprised how far we were able to make it considering the snow we have had lately. Won't be open this far for too much longer as another storm is coming in on Wednesday.

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